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[Kenneth]

Hey guys,

 

I have a bit of feedback on the new autojoin systems. I really appreciated not having to click anything to autojoin the game, so I would appreciate if that was some sort of a check box to join game automatically at least. I understand some might be in MGE and want to just finish a round, but if it was an option it would cater to everyone.

 

On the exact other hand, the mumble autojoin is incredibly buggy. Sometimes it opens up a new mumble instance and I spend 5 minutes pingponging between the two getting kicked and rejoining. Other times it sticks me in the root channel instead of the correct one. I personally think it shouldn't be a thing (I agree with your original judgement that voice chat is a more personal thing), but at the very least, an option for autojoin would be nice.

 

I do like the new prefixes, they look a lot better.

[Swagni]

Auto joining the game should just work fine. Unless it is a mumble required lobby and you are using google chrome. In this case it will just auto connect you to mumble and you have to manually click the join button for the gameserver. This is a technical limitation of chrome. If you want to be automatically connected to the mumble and gameserver you have to use firefox. 

 

The bugs with mumble connect is not limited to auto connect but in general to the way mumble connect works. We are going to address this problem in the future. 

[Some_Thing]

Auto game joining with Google Chrome "was" working at some stage, at least for me? Mumble auto join in Chrome works fine unless I already have mumble connected, in which it either:

 

- Connected to a non TF2Center Mumble, autojoin begins, disconnect from current server, connect to TF2Center mumble, joins root channel

 

- Connected already to TF2Center Mumble, autojoin begins, disconnects from server, connects to TF2Center mumble again, requests registered user password

 

Like you mentioned, there isn't much you can do about that however clicking the join mumble button manually before a pug begins to chat with others pre-pug only to be disconnected forcibly and reconnected incorrectly is fairly annoying. Perhaps grey out the mumble join button until the pug starts for manual reconnects.

 

What exactly is the technical limitation of Chrome is that is preventing both auto server join? Chrome as mentioned did at one stage autojoin TF2 servers?

[Swagni]

Auto game joining with Google Chrome "was" working at some stage, at least for me?

You can only get chrome to start one application at time. Either mumble or the game. We decided to let it do auto connect to mumble (on mumble required lobbies) because we felt like it is more important to be on mumble automatically and users will join the game on their own (by clicking the "Join game" button).

In case it is a lobby without mumble required, chrome will still auto connect you to game.
 

Mumble auto join in Chrome works fine unless I already have mumble connected, in which it either:
 
- Connected to a non TF2Center Mumble, autojoin begins, disconnect from current server, connect to TF2Center mumble, joins root channel
 
- Connected already to TF2Center Mumble, autojoin begins, disconnects from server, connects to TF2Center mumble again, requests registered user password

We are aware of this problem but do not have a solution for this right now. This probably requires us to know if the user is already running mumble or not which is not trivial.
 

Like you mentioned, there isn't much you can do about that however clicking the join mumble button manually before a pug begins to chat with others pre-pug only to be disconnected forcibly and reconnected incorrectly is fairly annoying. Perhaps grey out the mumble join button until the pug starts for manual reconnects.

This can be easily fixed by disabling auto connect to mumble in case the user clicked the "join mumble" link before the game started and will be considered. Thanks for the idea!
 

What exactly is the technical limitation of Chrome is that is preventing both auto server join? Chrome as mentioned did at one stage autojoin TF2 servers?

 

First: It is not about autojoining tf2. It is about auto joining mumble and tf2 at the same time.

 

We are changing the src of an iframe to steam:// or mumble:// which results in the URL being loaded by the browser and the application to start. But chrome won't execute it's "start application routine" if you do this multiple times in a row. There is a big timeout of multiple minutes until chrome let you start an application this way again. It is probably to prevent websites from spamming you with application start requests. Other browsers do not show such behavior.

[Kenneth]

One idea would be to have a check box for autojoining mumble which automatically unticks when you click the join mumble button. The default checking would be based on if it was a mumble required pug or not. Like was said before, voice chat is a much more personal thing, and it's highly obnoxious to have it launch just by itself with no option otherwise, especially if it is currently buggy and does things like launch multiple instances of mumble (which if I understand is a mumble bug rather than a tf2center bug). 

 

Also because of the bug, people are much less likely to join mumble pregame, which was part of the fun of lobbies in the first place.

[Silence]

auto-join doesn't work for me, but that's fine.

 

all I request is that the connect info is posted in one line that's easy to copy/paste

 

example: connect [ip adress]:[port];password [password]

[Swagni]

auto-join doesn't work for me, but that's fine.

 

all I request is that the connect info is posted in one line that's easy to copy/paste

 

example: connect [ip adress]:[port];password [password]

This is going to come soon!